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Posted by: John_Hamilton on 07/28/2012 08:33 AM Updated by: John_Hamilton on 07/28/2012 12:03 PM
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An Army Marches on It's Stomachs, Even a Fire Army! ~By John Hamilton

Frogtown, CA...The unfortunate event of having the Penn and Graham fires hit our area this week had the upside of the letting us get a glimpse into the the rolling armies that are some of the best in the world at fighting the yearly menace faced throughout California and many of the Western States. While these fires will fall short of some of the long, campaign type battles like the Knight Fire a couple of years ago and the Darby Fire. They did however show us how forces are marshaled and deployed to fight the enemy that doesn't fight with bombs or bullets but can be just as destructive and is just as alive as a human enemy. Fighting these battles requires infantry (Fire Crews), cavalry (Engines and Crews), tanks (Dozers), fighters (Helos), bombers (Tankers) and Generals (Incident Commanders and Air Attack)...


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The support infrastructure that seemingly materialized instantaneously at Frogtown to support these fires was impressive.

Rolling Kitchens, Semi-trailers with food, water, Gatorade, showers, toilets, sleeping accommodations if needed, GIS and mapping, satellite communications trailers, radio communications trailers, equipment mechanics, and on and on. All the equipment and resources needed to keep the troops safe, fed and productive as they battle the hot, thirsty and aggressive enemy.

In some ways fighting fires is like the old desert campaigns in that the battles are always against two enemies. The fire itself and the war of the extreme temps, dust, dirt smoke and rugged terrain wage on men and equipment.

There may be some grumbling at how to pay for these battles in tight economic times but it would be hard to argue against that this is one of the vital and irreplaceable things citizens expect from government. These are in a very real way our local defense department. Our hats off to the hard working men and women who fight these fires in our communities and others.

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Posted on: 2012-07-28 09:21:16   By: John_Hamilton
 
Thanks to the firefighters for doing what they do. We hope the injured firefighter is healing well

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    Posted on: 2012-07-28 20:49:23   By: Anonymous
     
    This is not even close to being in combat.I would have fought fires for the rest of my life than gone into combat for a month.People out of touch with reality think everything is war like.

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      Posted on: 2012-07-28 22:30:45   By: Anonymous
       
      No you wouldn't. After 34 years on the job, working with many veterans, I'm sure I could have reduced you to tears many times. It's different and terrifying and goes on for a whole career as opposed to a couple of deployments. I truly thank you and respect you for your service, just don't cheapen mine or that of my Brothers and Sisters, many who gave that ultimate sacrifice.

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        Posted on: 2012-07-29 06:05:00   By: Anonymous
         
        No one is trying to cheapen your career but at the same time it has gotten to the point that some in our society think we need to bow down and kiss your feet anytime you get a scratch. Are you going to tell me that during your long glorious career you fought a fire or put your life in danger every day or even every week? if so you are on an ego trip.
        Yes, you are there when needed and do an excellent job but please lighten up on the God Syndrome.


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        Posted on: 2012-07-29 07:19:09   By: Anonymous
         
        45 years ago today, gulf of Tonkin CVA 59. I lost crewmates. More died that day in one fire than you have even considered burying in your career. I was there jerk.


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        Posted on: 2012-07-29 19:45:23   By: Anonymous
         
        My mine task was to drive a 15 mile stretch of road and draw enemy fire,then obliterate where we thought the fire was coming from.Plain and simple.I killed people saw friends die,so children killed.A life time supply of anti drepressants keeps me from wonder if I killed any of those children.I did this for 9 months and it will affect me for ever.Combat is like nothing on earth and should never be compared to any job.Done talking about it.

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          Posted on: 2012-07-29 20:22:12   By: Anonymous
           
          thank your for your very difficult service to our country.
          i am sorry that you have to be medicated in order to live but it beats the alternative. any and all vets deserve our respect for love of countrymen/women& children.

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        Posted on: 2012-07-29 19:51:17   By: Anonymous
         
        Oh I`m not a jerk as one poster said.I went days without a shower or a hot meal.No semi`s of food or water but plenty of drugs to keep you fighting.People make reality suck!

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Posted on: 2012-07-28 19:51:53   By: Anonymous
 
Rolling Kitchens, Semi-trailers with food, water, Gatorade, showers, toilets, sleeping accommodations if needed, GIS and mapping, satellite communications trailers, radio communications trailers, equipment mechanics, and on and on. All the equipment and resources needed to keep the troops safe, fed and productive as they battle the hot, thirsty and aggressive enemy.

In some ways fighting fires is like the old desert campaigns in that the battles are always against two enemies. The fire itself and the war of the extreme temps, dust, dirt smoke and rugged terrain wage on men and equipment.




Do you have a thing for firemen?Poor reporting In these times.Truck loads of food,showers,gatorade.

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    Posted on: 2012-07-28 22:33:32   By: Anonymous
     
    Yep. Why in the world should we give these firefighters anything to eat, drink, or a place to sleep. Jerk.

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      Posted on: 2012-07-29 19:23:54   By: Anonymous
       
      what about the war veterans who come home?Do we get the same treatmant?

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    Posted on: 2012-07-29 12:13:26   By: John_Hamilton
     
    What I meant and I guess I should be more careful of my wording. In lean economic times somethings need to be cut but basic services like fire, defense, public safety should come at the top of the list to be fully funded.

    If you are going to cut why not pie in the sky things like High Speed Rail? Those Billions would fix lots of pot holes, fight lots of fires and keep our prisons fully funded. AB 109 not needed...

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      Posted on: 2012-07-29 12:17:24   By: John_Hamilton
       
      Everytime a "Grant" get awarded from or to some state or federal agency the money had to come from somewhere!! There seems to be a complete disconnect in our society. "Grant funded" seems to be code for FREE money.

      Usually it was taxpayer money that could have been used for core services being "Granted" somewhere else...

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        Re: fires/war
        Posted on: 2012-07-29 16:34:56   By: Anonymous
         
        John, seems like people take offense at most anything said or done these days. I liked your writeup and clearly understood that you were using poetic license to make your point. Using creative writing rather than a dry post. I'm also glad we have an army of firefighters that can respond quickly to save our homes. I believe that is what you were saying with a 100% positive spirit. Thanks again to all who helped extinguish fires in our community. We will probably need them again the way this summer is going.

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          Re: fires/war
          Posted on: 2012-07-29 20:21:25   By: Anonymous
           
          Sorry John I started this.It just hit me the wrong way at a wrong time.Had to vent.... glad you let me,but sorry you took the heat.

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            Re: fires/war
            Posted on: 2012-07-31 04:58:39   By: Anonymous
             
            I don't think you owe john or anyone an apology for speaking out on your true "Real" thoughts. I can get where John was coming from being a journalist. I dont buy into the Man with 34 yrs who can bring me to tears. The Jerk doesn't have a concept on any thing but his ego. A lot of them are like that and more than one "Civilian" is getting tired of it. They put their pants on the same as we do, one leg at a time and their balls aint made of brass.
            I thank them for what they do with all my heart but that it Thank you should be enough. To go any further than that is actually worshiping a false God and John Shouldn't play intothat one.

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              Re: fires/war
              Posted on: 2012-07-31 20:14:28   By: Anonymous
               
              I do believe John is sincere.The other guy made me laugh and cry.Obviously has never had his fillings knocked out during a fire fight.And sad to know that he thinks combat vets are like veterans of other jobs.Makes you want to fight for him!Done now.


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Re: fires/war
Posted on: 2012-07-31 01:33:09   By: Anonymous
 
I do believe John is sincere.The other guy made me laugh and cry.Obviously has never had his fillings knocked out during a fire fight.And sad to know that he thinks combat vets are like veterans of other jobs.Makes you want to fight for him!Done now.

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