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Posted by: thepinetree on 12/19/2017 09:07 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 12/19/2017 09:17 PM
Expires: 01/01/2022 12:00 AM

The Board Discussion Portion of December 19 Cannabis Special Meeting

San Andreas, CA...Today was another marathon session on Cannabis for the Calaveras Board. What follows is the portion of the meeting after all of the public comments, etc. This is where they started discussing the action items and getting ready to vote. If you are following this topic this is the portion of the meeting where the rubber meets the road. First up Supervisor Mills brought forward a vote on the ban ordinance and it failed 3-2 with Mills and Clapp being the only ayes. One interesting discussion topic was between Tofanelli & Garamindi. Tofanelli has a hard cap of 50 parcels of 50 acres or larger with no more than 22,000 square ft of production area.

One area of potential compromise was that there might be a way for some of the displaced registered growers to create co-ops so to speak and combine their efforts to have multiple growers combining to reach the 22,000 ft limit. The rational is to provide at least some option for growers who have paid their taxes, gone through the process but are being zoned out of business.

With 50 large grows the hope is that it would make the process easier to police and manage from a law enforcement and compliance perspective. It is important for the supervisors to get this issue is a manageable format so the planning department and staff can get back to work on other important topics for the county including of paramount importance the General Plan update that has been in process since 2006.

The lack of a general plan has been a structural impediment to larger scale residential development projects. According to several realtors we have spoken with we are getting dangerously on low on inventory priced for entry level homes for our young working families.

The meeting was paused at 6pm and will resume at 9am on Thursday.

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Posted on: 2017-12-19 21:32:37   By: Anonymous

Before everyone becomes powerful behind an anonymous keyboard. Please people, if you have an issue or a solution, go to the meetings and voice yourself in public, not behind a post.
Side note, I don’t smoke or grow but I am optimistic enough to allow our county to be the tip of the spear on a multi-million dollar industry. California has always had the mentality to allow equal opportunity to all of its citizens, why is there so much scrutiny for the ones that try an alternative medice? Additionally, I much rather regulate alcohol, kills millions a year, can anyone give me a statistic on who’s died from marijuana?

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 03:40:19   By: Anonymous

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 05:21:48   By: Anonymous
    Well I'll be danged, I agree with someone here.
    A set limit of permits, large enough parcels to not annoy so many neighbors, and not to overwhelm the inspectors.
    So here we have these permits to where do these "farmers" sell their crop in this county? The county rejects all new applications for dispensaries. No, I'm not going to waste my time going to one of these meetings, just throwing it out there for someone who does go. I'm not a farmer, and if I want marijuana, I can grow my own.
    As for alcohol and all the harm it causes, there's not enough time in the day to list the harm it causes. I doubt marijuana will ever be as bad as alcohol. Let's just hope all of our dearly beloved wine connoisseurs we invite to party up here, don't start mixing these drugs together after a day of drinking.

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      Posted on: 2017-12-20 07:56:18   By: Anonymous
      Yes. Agree!

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 06:02:52   By: Anonymous
    Those who want the ban tend to remain anonymous because they fear retaliation from growers! Go figure... in the real world, those who deal drugs are not good people!

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      Posted on: 2017-12-20 06:57:15   By: Anonymous
      I am pro regulation and wish to remain anonymous due to fear of retaliation. The pro regulation side doesn't threaten to shoot banners on every Pinetree comment thread. Just saying.

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 07:55:36   By: Anonymous
    As a county we are doomed to be forever poor without some creative thinking about new revenue streams. What's the only bright spot in the county? Murphys - which, essentially, a group of citizens and business owners made happen by promoting tourism and wine. To drive through the rest, especially government center and San Andreas, is not unlike visiting Potterville. We missed the development train long ago and the marijuana one is about to leave the station. Between the GOP tax reform package and a rejection of the cannabis industry, this area is going to go from bad to worse. Meanwhile, other counties will benefit financially and our Sheriff's Department will still need to go after the illegal growers. It's also worth pointing out that our lack of a general plan has sadly dogged us for decades. There are so many different community cultures here in Calaveras, I'm beginning to think county government is a failed social experiment and some towns and cities may be better off going it alone in order to be truly represented.

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 10:26:40   By: Anonymous
    The blind (County staff) leading the blind (County Supervisors).

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    Re: Email your Supervisor
    Posted on: 2017-12-20 12:05:05   By: Anonymous
    Having followed this now for over 2 years; having attended and presented at many a BoS meeting; having met with my local supervisor more than one time to discuss opinions and options; having talked with neighbor and non-neighbor growers; and now recognizing that we are hopefully at the end of this road; it is too late for anyone to attend the meeting on Thursday with the intent of 'speaking out'.

    The time for public comment has ended, unless one takes the time to send a personal email message to their individual supervisor advising on a particular position.

    So, if you have a 'compromise' opinion related to difference between the BS and PC versions, send it to your supervisor. That's where they are in this deliberation. That's what I've done as a District 1 voter. I want to ensure Gary understands my views on the 50/22,000 limit and where he might compromise in order not to stonewall progress.

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Posted on: 2017-12-20 05:49:02   By: Anonymous
Time for another round of vote their slimy a s s e s out

Ban the board, burn the dope, and shoot the scumbag dopers.

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 06:59:45   By: Anonymous
    YEAH those darn BOS let's murder all dopers........cut off their heads and put them on spikes on the county lines, that won't make us slimy, will it? yuck, all that blood and guts and things I hate slimy things, and I can't vote, not for those things, just class presidents and things like that.
    That was fun, what comic books do you read? wanna trade some? I gots tons of Doctor Victor Von Doom let me know, k? see ya tomorrow, I gotta go to grand ma's today.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-12-20 08:55:07   By: Anonymous
"It's not fair, we got ours, why should anyone else get theirs? Why can't we have ours, and theirs, and they get nothing?"

(As I sit around my swimming pool)

-G Tofanelli's mantra, and the rest of the thriving baby boomers.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-12-20 10:25:03   By: Anonymous
Lease out the surplus land at the Government Center to the growers. This provides revenue to the County and the Sheriff is right up the hill.

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    Posted on: 2017-12-20 16:08:33   By: Anonymous
    Many growers and their employee's have criminal backgrounds and they are quite capable of retaliation, they talk of it all the time, many are not good people at all. I don't mean everyone of them but there are enough to scare me. Commercial grows are not healthy to live by for many reasons.

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