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Posted by: thepinetree on 06/27/2018 08:46 AM Updated by: thepinetree on 06/27/2018 08:46 AM
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Justice Alito Delivered the Opinion of the Court in Case That Weakens Union Power

Washington, DC...From the Opinion of the Court.."Under Illinois law, public employees are forced to subsidize a union, even if they choose not to join and strongly object to the positions the union takes in collective bargaining and related activities. We conclude that this arrangement violates the free speech rights of nonmembers by compelling them to subsidize private speech on matters of substantial public concern.


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We upheld a similar law in Abood v. Detroit Bd. of Ed., 431 U. S. 209 (1977), and we recognize the importance of following precedent unless there are strong reasons for not doing so. But there are very strong reasons in this case.Fundamental free speech rights are at stake. Abood was poorly reasoned. It has led to practical problems and abuse. It is inconsistent with other First Amendment cases and has been undermined by more recent decisions.Developments since Abood was handed down have shed new light on the issue of agency fees, and no reliance interests on the part of public-sector unions are sufficient to justify the perpetuation of the free speech violations that Abood has countenanced for the past 41 years. Abood is therefore overruled."


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Posted on: 2018-06-27 09:17:25   By: Anonymous
 
no unions ban the unions break the unions

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    Posted on: 2018-06-27 10:05:44   By: Anonymous
     
    The unions are why the US used to have a strong and secure middle class. When unions were strong, a union worker could raise a family comfortably in the middle class. He didn't need a college education but he could afford to at least help send his kids to college. And many did just that.

    Unions are why we have a 40 hr work week and weekends off. Unions are why if you get called in to work on a Sunday or a double shift, then your pay is increased.

    Unions are why many workers used to have retirement pensions and health care.

    When unions were strong the benefits of American ingenuity and productivity flowed to both the workers and the owners of business. CEOs and senior executives weren't paid 100s or 1000s of times more than their workers. Income inequality was not a "thing."

    Unions also screwed some things up (e.g., blind protection of incompetent or lazy workers), but on net unions contributed a great deal to the formation and growth of the American middle class, esp. in the two decades after WWII.

    Anyone who rejoices in the destruction of unions is ignorant of history, IMO. And if you are pro-Trump but anti-union, then that is certainly a failure to appreciate who was really working on your behalf.

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      Posted on: 2018-06-27 10:09:39   By: Anonymous
       
      Unions for normal working people are ok. Unions for public sector, tax payer funded jobs are just wrong.

      Washington desk jockeys don't need representation or make twice what normal people do.

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        Posted on: 2018-06-27 10:33:48   By: Anonymous
         
        Washington desk jockeys are overpaid? Who are you thinking of? Certainly DAs and Congressional staffers are paid less than they'd make in the private sector.

        Members of Congress seem well-paid but have a lot of expenses, often including living in two places and traveling back and forth frequently. And they can't go to work in a t-shirt. I think Paul Ryan is quitting because he has 3 kids approaching college and he wants to transition to the private sector where I'm sure he will be paid huge money.

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          Posted on: 2018-06-27 11:07:29   By: Anonymous
           
          Yes all of Washington is overpaid!! The richest counties in the nation are all clustered around DC. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong! That money is either taxpayer money, lobbying money or government contracting money. Enough

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        Posted on: 2018-06-27 16:25:36   By: Anonymous
         
        “Normal working people “?! You don’t make any sense!
        Public sector, tax payer jobs is an oxymoron—they are opposite things!

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      Posted on: 2018-06-27 11:12:53   By: Anonymous
       
      At one time Unions were a great thing. Better pay, child labor laws,
      many, many things the Union stood for made life better for workers and their families.
      Now the Union backs those lazy, fat, useless pieces of chit, who
      break a sweat just looking at a shovel or a pipe wrench wondering how to get out of the job at hand.
      Those fat lumps of crap who when walking you see all their lard jiggling


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        Posted on: 2018-06-27 13:03:18   By: Anonymous
         
        I acknowledged that unions have erred in not upholding performance standards for their members. But it is simply wrong to assert that all or even most union members are lazy, fat....etc.

        The indisputable fact is that as unions have become weaker over the past few decades the lot of the working (laboring) man has gotten worse. Maybe you can suggest a different cause of the failure of working wages to keep up with inflation, and, if so, I'd be happy to hear it. IMO the average working man no longer has any bargaining power once the unions disappeared. So he gets screwed.

        Or put another way, the only salaried workers doing well are those that are still represented by unions. And only some of those are doing well because in other cases the union still exists but it toothless. This SCOTUS decision may have just pulled are the remaining teeth. And that is a very bad thing for America.

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          Posted on: 2018-06-27 14:16:35   By: Anonymous
           
          Yes. The founders had the concept of checks-and-balances correct. Unions are necessary to balance the power of employers, particularly big institutions or corporations. When either side, labor or capital, has overwhelming power, the result is no good for anybody. This used to be a conservative point of view. Workers everywhere are hurt by this. Much like the trade war, what seems like a victory to a radical right fringe in the short run is going to hurt those very same people in the long run. As a moderate Republican I must say that I feel like the party I always knew is leaving me.

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            Posted on: 2018-06-27 15:05:38   By: Anonymous
             
            As John Boehner said: It's Trump's party now. The Republican party is taking a nap somewhere.

            Thoughtful Republicans are going to have to turn against the Trump sycophants at the polls or the country is lost.

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            Posted on: 2018-06-27 20:25:47   By: Anonymous
             
            Which unions did the "founders" support? Is that found in the Federalist Papers?

            Seems to me unions didn't come around till after Karl Marx published his manifesto.

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              Posted on: 2018-06-27 21:53:57   By: Anonymous
               
              What the Founders supported was the principle that all sources of power should be offset by countervailing powers. Without unions there really is no balancing force to offset the power of employers. Fine if you don't like unions, but there is really nothing out there that can advocate for workers and this is no good for anybody.

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