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Posted by: thepinetree on 09/28/2019 08:41 AM Updated by: thepinetree on 10/01/2019 09:18 AM
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Massive Marijuana Expansion Proposed! An Absurd Blank Check! ~ Alice Montegomery

San Andreas, CA...Calaveras County has a massive commercial marijuana expansion proposal in the works Oct. 1. Advocates are hoping you don’t catch on. If you think the Urgency Ordinance was a mess and Measure D was misleading, this proposal makes those two look benign Let's take a look. The County and pro-commercial marijuana advocates are gambling with your tax dollars while trying to pull a fast one. Against the State’s demand not to, the County is using an old, inappropriate Environmental Impact Report (EIR) created for a 3 year old, never used, obsolete, never adopted regulation. Then they’re cannibalizing it with an incomplete, vague, illegal addendum. The State of California has said these are both clear violations of CEQA (California Environmental Quality Act). The Planning Commission Chair and Planning Director knew this, but forged on with the imposter documents. Whenever there’s a change or new project, a new EIR is mandated. Even the Planning Chair stated on the record on 9/18/19 at 11:50 a.m.: “In this case we have a new project that was presented to us.” Michelle Plotnik




What’s Going On?
The General Plan Isn’t Complete. No new industry can be introduced into a County unless and until a General Plan is adopted, enacted, and implemented,” according to the State Governor’s Office of Planning and Research as confirmed Feb. 26, 2019 at 3:20 p.m., with Director Kate Gordon. The County is ignoring this law too.

The Urgency Ordinance expired 2/14/18. Zero mitigation has been done (no pollution cleaned up) as required by law. No environmental damage has been righted, no stream
diversions are corrected, and garbage, chemicals, hazardous and human waste lie in the wake of grows. Stream diversions remain uncorrected. Environmental damage is mounting.

What’s New in This New Proposed Addendum and “Regulation?’
Almost everything. It’s very likely going to adversely affect your health, your safety, and our environment. Square Footage and Amount of Grows multiply. On 9/12/19 on record Planning Director Peter Maurer indicated he “doesn’t know” the amount of parcels this proposed regulation affects.

An infinite number of growers can co-locate on each lot making pollution harder to track.
Growers can grow in residential areas.
Growers can use leased land which burdens the land owners who have Perpetual Liability for Hazardous Materials, chemicals and Hazardous Waste used on their lands.
The applicant pool is open to anyone, including formerly rejected criminal growers.
Growers can grow before receiving a fully executed Permit through “Special Plans, “Conditional Use Permits,”“Administrative Use Permits,”Validations” and other bogus
interim titles.
(Manufacturing) is buried in this regulation as referenced in 3 CCR §8000. They’re adding Manufacturing, among other things including cultivation, possession, manufacture, distribution, processing, storing, laboratory testing, packaging, labeling, transportation, delivery, or sale of cannabis and cannabis products as provided for in that chapter.
Self-Distribution . They are removing a critical safety process that directly affects consumers. Growers deliver their own product without the additional checks and balances of a professional distributor. Skipping this crucial Chain of Custody step endangers the customer by making the product less safe for the consumer.
Removing Law Enforcement’s Ability to Protect Us - The Fox Watching the Chickens
The County has removed Sheriff DiBasilio and District Attorney Yook’s involvement in the carefully crafted Background Check provision. Instead they want a Cannabis Cultivation Dept. to take over this responsibility, which is most certainly counterproductive to public safety.
The County reduced violations of California Cannabis laws from the State-mandated misdemeanor per HS 11358, to an infraction.

Environmental, Health and Safety Components Missing in Proposed Addendum/Regulation
No requirements for regularly scheduled inspections by County Environmental, Health, and Safety (Risk) and no requirement that a County Environmental Risk Specialist Attend all site (premise) inspections
Call-outs insufficient to comply with all pertinent local, state and federal regulations Insufficient and inapparent training for commercial cultivation owners, managers, and workers
No call-outs for Personal Protective Equipment. No adequate restrictions on use of unspecified ingredient containing amendments, also defoliants, fungicides, herbicides, pesticides, rodenticides, chemicals, hazardous materials, hazardous waste, and other contributing restricted materials.
No call-outs for proper handling, storage, training, and disposal of these chemicals that should not be allowed in the first place
No call-outs for Record keeping
No call-outs for critical Fed-mandated info to provide to local emergency first responders in accordance with Fed Osha with regard to chemicals, hazardous materials/hazardous waste.
No call-outs for proper fencing. The called out 6 foot tall see-through easily-scalable chain link fence is atrocious and unsafe. At minimum, fences surrounding commercial marijuana must be at least 8’-0” tall, of wood or wood-similar material, and utilize a security lock that will prevent children from access.

Limiting the Public’s Right to Comment and be Informed
9/12/19 The Planning Chair unlawfully prohibited Public Comment despite our reasonable, calm, and civil request to comment as per CEQA. She then evidently called the Sheriff.
9/18/19 The Planning Chair again unlawfully prohibited us from Public Comment. Later in the day we were told we’d have 3 minutes instead of the published 5 minutes, despite pointing out to her that the published allowed Public Comment period is 5 minutes.



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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-28 08:53:56   By: Anonymous
 
From: Dennis Mills
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:08 PM
To: Alice M. Montgomery Subject: Re: Radio Incident, a Lesson, and Potential Opportunity for a PIO
Alice,
In my professional career, there have been only a few "incidents" of this type in business and everyone that "fell into disgrace" publicly was summarily dismissed. You were hearing an elected official that is up for election next year state they are not willing to put up a unified front or keep difficult discussions out of view.
People only want to see their government working together for a common goal of keeping them safe and this is not the way to do that. Elections have consequences. As you know the state has notified the county of an audit that will go back ten years, that by itself should have people on their toes.
I can speak to some of this privately as you recall the COG audit was very disheartening and keep in mind the books were being handled by our auditor. They even said, the problem was going on for years. That issue has been corrected with the addition of a bookkeeper at COG.
Regards,
Sent from my iPad

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    Re: Millsgomery
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:10:34   By: Anonymous
     
    Said everyone with two bankruptcies

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      Re: Millsgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 10:06:56   By: Anonymous
       
      You people are crazy!!! We all remember the lies and accusations you made last time Alice.

      “In an unusual turn in the late afternoon after several hours of public discussion, Ponte, who represents District 4, said she might have to recuse herself from a vote.

      She said she had received a threat in a manila folder from anti-pot activist Bill McManus that he said he obtained anonymously that implied she had financial gain tied to her vote. McManus said he was told the folder “may not be the end of it.’

      Then when Alice and Bill went at each other on the enterprise comment (Bill had the good sense to go back and delete all of his comments, unlike crazy Alice):
      Alice Montgomery
      Bill McManus Bill, wow. I am not sure whether to be insulted or happy about being called an "evil choice." In any event, you are incorrect. I am not for "uncontrolled unregulated pot." I took the photos you had in the enveloped - the ones you presented. What you are not remembering is that I took them for a bit, and in fact handed them back to you at the meeting (a point you may just not remember, but is true), to check them, before you presented them. So what is it you would like to hold over my head? You may not call me a liar. I'm not afraid of you.
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        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:01:53   By: Anonymous
         
        It is actually a good thing you brought that (really old news) up about the envelope. Yes. I did take those photos. Blaming Bill McManus for this is nonsensical. He had no idea what was in the envelope or who had provided it.
        The upshot is Debbie Ponte should have recused herself from voting before any of this happened because it would have been the correct thing to do. Instead she breached her duties and upon this evidence being presented, she excused herself to consult with County Counsel Megan Stedtfeld. Next, upon returning, she voted which was now a breach of a whole lot more. Not good.

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          Re: Millsgomery
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 17:19:05   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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            Re: Millsgomery
            Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:23:24   By: Anonymous
             
            ^^I'd like to be "lying" next to her, running it up the old waazzoooo!

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            No names of the non-elected
            Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:55:23   By: Anonymous
             
            No names of the non-elected

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              Re: No names of the non-elected
              Posted on: 2019-10-03 08:45:12   By: Anonymous
               
              If someone says something wise or not so wise, it's anyone's guess if it gets published. So don't say stupid stuff!

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          Re: Millsgomery
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 17:24:30   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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            Re: Millsgomery
            Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:24:16   By: Anonymous
             
            I don't know about transplant, but I'd like to plant something in her.

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            Re: Millsgomery
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 22:15:06   By: Anonymous
             
            All of the supervisors are transplants. Even Garamendi has not lived here until recently. Though, he does have relatives that have been long time residents.

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          Re: Millsgomery
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:58:59   By: Anonymous
           
          Profanity

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        No names of the non-elected
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 05:08:52   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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      Re: Millsgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 10:46:12   By: Anonymous
       
      Alice Montgomery , you are an outsider with no real knowledge Of what real citizens Of this county have to endure. Go write an article for the Berkeley Barb… Oh my, am I dating myself.

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        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:57:55   By: Anonymous
         
        Incorrect in entirety

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          Re: Millsgomery
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:25:16   By: Anonymous
           
          I can't speak about her being an outsider, but I'd like to be insider.

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        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 22:19:35   By: Anonymous
         
        I'm guessing you are a transplant too. Why talk about Bezerkly if you have no ties there?

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        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-10-01 00:19:57   By: Anonymous
         
        Here's what I do know. Planning Commissioners Tim Laddish and Brett Henderson stated on Public Record they do not want to live next to a marijuana grow. Brett said he doesn't want his children exposed to marijuana. Then they both okayed 6' tall see-through chain link fences that can't keep a 3 year old out, and commercial marijuana in residential areas. Think I don't know what any local endures now?

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        Re: Millsgomery/\/\ Alice-outsider
        Posted on: 2019-10-03 14:39:27   By: Anonymous
         
        In all actuality, we are all outsiders. The native Americans especially the MiWuks were here in this area way before anyone else.

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          Re: Millsgomery/\/\ Alice-outsider/\/\ native Americans
          Posted on: 2019-10-03 14:40:51   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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      Re: Millsgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 10:56:27   By: Anonymous
       
      Bill McManus
      Alice Montgomery transparent??? From what I know about you and the definition of transparent......... There’s no connection but you are charming in your own way and I assume you will be the downfall of Michael Avera please keep responding I loves watching someone dig deeper with their false hoods

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        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:31:09   By: Anonymous
         
        Who is Michael Avera?

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      Re: Millsgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:01:18   By: Anonymous
       
      Bill McManus
      Alice Montgomery yes measure D is old news but still the same lie. Even worse was the initiative sponsored by Alice M. I admit I helped her at the time is was a choice between three evils the third being Alice M.’s Progressive position on pot she’s a very nice lady she is charming and engaging in every aspect however she is a liar of the highest magnitude while many Mountain Mudd’s are drawn to the flame of her influence perceived or not our county Steele is experiencing environmental devastation on an unparalleled scale take comfort in Alice’s assertions a better life for all of us with uncontrolled unregulated pot growing in the county.

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        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 12:01:13   By: Anonymous
         
        Nope. You can't prove one lie. When you have no facts, have no data, have no relevant information, you call me names. The good news is I just don't care. It's the environmental laws that are what are important and by their mandates, our environmental protection, our health, and our safety. Did I mention that you and anyone else that says otherwise, cannot prove that commercial marijuana has provided one cent of profit for our county? We have no proof. Stick to the facts.
        Very Sincerely, Alice Montgomery

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          Re: Millsgomery
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:27:00   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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            Re: Millsgomery
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 22:36:06   By: Anonymous
             
            These filthy, harassers of women, perverted sexual freaks who troll this site, are a fine example of what we would be allowing to control the county. Lowlife tactics of the criminal potheads can't be allowed to continue. These disgusting pigs should not be allowed to threaten rape of local women here.

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              Re: Millsgomery
              Posted on: 2019-09-30 08:29:20   By: Anonymous
               
              ^^Whos threatening rape? I just wanta bang her.

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                Pervy posts
                Posted on: 2019-09-30 11:09:02   By: Anonymous
                 
                I'm an out of work female grower and I find the suggestive posts very offensive. You're not helping the regulation cause. My guess, you're actually a banner looking to make compliant farmers look bad. Please stop.

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                  Re: Pervy posts
                  Posted on: 2019-10-03 08:46:38   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Thank you.

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      Re: Millsgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:04:49   By: Anonymous
       
      No names of the non-elected

      [Reply ]

        Re: Millsgomery
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:27:52   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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      Re: Millsgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:54:11   By: Anonymous
       
      Nope. Dennis is right on this one. Auditor stepped in it big time, then stepped in it again when instead of stating she has no idea where the marijuana money went or if it can even cover its own expenses (all of which no one knows due to ever-increasing findings of commercial marijuana-caused environmental pollution), she makes stuff up. No taxes or fees, even if we are allowed to keep them and not sued constantly, can cover this. Planning Commissioner Tim Laddish tried to write that we are "required" to have commercial cultivation after which he was nearly laughed out of the room. Then he asked whether Measure C taxes helped us (you know - the ones being fought over in court) in a revealing interchange meaning he either doesn't get it, isn't financially aware, or is silly.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:32:39   By: Anonymous
     
    Right on target Alice, Thank You -- This ordinance is a display of the combined ignorance and collusion on display in our County, the radical BOS members in favor of this are corrupt and attempting to destroy our County they must be STOPED!!!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:35:01   By: Anonymous
       
      We have lost all elements of law and justice in this county. Our BOS is totally out of line and they need to be held accountable and inquire is in order as well as a grand jury investigation!

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:48:38   By: Anonymous
         
        Typical crybaby liberals who want to eliminate personal property rights, individual liberty, with endless inquires and environmental lawsuits.

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          Re: I’m a liberal.....
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:35:03   By: Anonymous
           
          And 100% OPPOSED to commercial marijuana cultivation in Calaveras County. Stop being divisive. The marijuana industry wants to divide and conquer by making this a political issue, rather than an environmental one.

          Commercial marijuana cultivation is a filthy and polluting industry, run by “farmers” motivated by greed.

          BAN COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA CULTIVATION IN CALAVERAS COUNTY.

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            Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
            Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:02:44   By: Anonymous
             
            Makes sense, liberals hate private property and individual liberty.

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              Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
              Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:27:12   By: Anonymous
               
              Let's say someone tells you they have a proposed, but not verified income stream accompanied by assault weapons, dogs that will kill your chickens, lights waking you at all hours, super loud generators also waking you at all hours, loud, heavy trucks that destroy roads, surrounded by just a 6' see-through fence everyone can climb, lots of cash on their property and in vehicles, and a super strong odor that will permeate your property and everyone else's around - a smell that will badly affect your health and at the very least not allow you to go outdoors when the weather is good - for the rest of your life. Would you go for something like this?

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                Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:32:42   By: Anonymous
                 
                Every problem you state can be remedied with regulations.

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                  Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                  Posted on: 2019-09-29 10:15:52   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Yep, an ordinance demanding that rich skunk stench not cross property lines works everytime.

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                    Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                    Posted on: 2019-09-29 17:14:29   By: Anonymous
                     
                    All farming has odors.

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                      Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                      Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:15:49   By: Anonymous
                       
                      Incorrect. Commercial marijuana has the smell and strength of odor to literally make others ill. So, no. No other farming has that kind of odor.

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                        Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                        Posted on: 2019-09-30 09:56:23   By: Anonymous
                         
                        Rendering plant odors are exempt from nuisance odor regulation because its agricultural.

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                        Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                        Posted on: 2019-09-30 09:57:28   By: Anonymous
                         
                        Rendering plant odors are exempt from nuisance odor regulation because its agricultural.

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                      Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                      Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:17:23   By: Anonymous
                       
                      A stench producing, crime attracting marijuana grow is not a farm. Never was.

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                      Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                      Posted on: 2019-09-29 22:44:42   By: Anonymous
                       
                      Lies, lies and more lies from potheads. No, all farming does not have odors!

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                        Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                        Posted on: 2019-09-30 11:03:22   By: Anonymous
                         
                        Dairy, pig farms, poultry farms, sugar beets, garlic farms, wineries after intensive chemical spraying, to name but a few agricultural outfits that have odors.

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                          Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                          Posted on: 2019-10-01 00:19:57   By: Anonymous
                           
                          It's children, remember. All Calaveras County schools are being affected by the unhealthy effects of commercial cultivation odor brought into the classroom by innocent and unknowing children. We know this because school administration is reaching out for changes of clothing and fresh backpacks. Unfortunately the strong commercial marijuana odors emanating from clothing and backpacks of certain children are affecting all other students and staff, preventing delivery of curriculum. Changes of clothes and fresh backpacks are actively being sought out to make classrooms a more healthy place for all. No other (actual) agricultural crop when grown brings odors into the local classrooms to the extent that commercial marijuana does. Let's see if the BOS cares.

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                            Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                            Posted on: 2019-10-01 07:56:32   By: Anonymous
                             
                            EXAGGERATE MUCH?

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                  Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                  Posted on: 2019-09-29 13:49:14   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Nope. In any event, this is not a regulation. It is a literal Get of Jail Free card for growers with environmental violations reduced from misdemeanors to infractions, low, see-through fences, growing without permits. This is nothing resembling a regulation. Callaway lied. Laddish lied. The rest are pandering, except for those who are asking serious questions. Pro-commercial advocates:
                  Stop lying to us. We demand it.

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                    Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                    Posted on: 2019-09-29 15:11:57   By: Anonymous
                     
                    The DA asked to change misdemeanors to infractions because the county will be better able to assess harsher fines and penalties faster as infractions than as misdemeanors. We demand that you stop misrepresenting your erroneous opinions as facts. Just rewatch the meeting and try to pay attention to detail.

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                      Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                      Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:24:31   By: Anonymous
                       
                      That is a load of crap. Commissioner Tim Laddish (who already has proven he lied about Manufacturing not being in the proposal when he in fact wrote the very edits that allow for it and so many more actually dangers marijuana businesses and related practices), and Chair Michelle-let's-illegally-silence-anyone-who-doesn't-agree-with-me-Plotnnik, just stated that stuff. Then they looked over to staff who appeared surprised. DA Yook was not there to answer to that. When the other two commissioners pointed that out and questioned it, you guessed it, Plotnik tried to interrupt and shut them down too. ????????

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                        Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
                        Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:55:25   By: Anonymous
                         
                        That's right! Then respected attorney and commissioner Wooster questioned the Misdemeanor-Down-to-Infraction move again later in the meeting, not because he didn't understand it, but likely to point out the absurdity of the backpedal, make-sh--up-as-you-go-along justifications we all were hearing. In no world is reducing a Misdemeanor down to an Infraction beneficial for the county or its citizens. What's worse is that this silly move gives growers a signal and notice it's o.k. to violate environmental, health, and safety laws, put us is in harm's way, and pollute our environment because they won't actually suffer any punishment.

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              Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
              Posted on: 2019-10-03 08:53:21   By: Anonymous
               
              What? I am a liberal, own private property, know I have a responsibility, and understand the Social Contract which means behaving and operating in a way that allows others to live and let live. Unfortunately growers have lost sight of this Social Contract and demand we breathe their foul marijuana odor, drink the water that is affected by their chemicals, suffer the crime that is wrought by a plant worth so much that we have killings, shootings, and robberies, and force our schoolchildren to suffer because some children must go to school fully wreaking of the scent of marijuana preventing their own children and others from fully receiving curriculum. Instructors are affected. Staff are affected. Their own children must be provided with donated changes of fresh clothing and provided fresh backpacks, and the entire class suffers. How is this good?

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              Re: I’m a liberal.....Yeah we can tell
              Posted on: 2019-10-03 09:31:43   By: Anonymous
               
              What? I am a liberal, own private property, know I have a responsibility, and understand the Social Contract which means behaving and operating in a way that allows others to live and let live. Unfortunately growers have lost sight of this Social Contract and demand we breathe their foul marijuana odor, drink the water that is affected by their chemicals, suffer the crime that is wrought by a plant worth so much that we have killings, shootings, and robberies, and force our schoolchildren to suffer because some children must go to school fully wreaking of the scent of marijuana preventing their own children and others from fully receiving curriculum. Instructors are affected. Staff are affected. Their own children must be provided with donated changes of fresh clothing and provided fresh backpacks, and the entire class suffers. How is this good?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-28 08:54:30   By: Anonymous
 
On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Alice M. Montgomery wrote:
Dear Honorable Board of Supervisors,
This morning at 9:00 a.m. during my commute I was surprised to hear our auditor being interviewed by media on the radio. It is my understanding that no one from Calaveras County is to talk with media except a PIO (Public information Officer) designated and trained to represent the county for such instances. Next, and even more astonishing were the disparaging comments made concerning our Sheriff.
This incident presents a lesson and two potential opportunities for Calaveras County. I am sure you are aware of these issues and may already have a plan in place to prevent recurrence. If not, may I make two suggestions:
1. May I suggest a PIO? It can be a non-funded, part time position that could provide a great opportunity for both the county and the candidate. It's important that the face of, and mouth piece for Calaveras County be carefully chosen, prepared, and trained. Again, this is clearly a part-time, but very important gig. This could be a good time to really investigate diversity.
2. Kindly consider a county-wide re-emphasis of the "praise publicly and critique privately" policy. This can be done via email and fortified in various staff meetings. Morale will be elevated. Again, these are just suggestions.

As a person who enjoys calling Calaveras County home, It truly was harrowing listening to these disparaging remarks today. As I know you are likely dealing with this, kindly forgive me if I am preaching to the choir.
Best,
Alice Montgomery

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-10-01 11:36:28   By: Anonymous
     
    Department heads are allowed to speak to the media so your understanding in nonsensical. Rethink.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2019-10-03 13:49:53   By: Anonymous
       
      What one is allowed to do and what one does as a professional person, can be two different things. Needless to say, it was needless.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-28 08:55:20   By: Anonymous
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Mills
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:41 AM To: robertmoodycs@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Pot
The previous board did not consider IRS or Board of Equalization requirements as part of their Urgency Ordinance. The ordinance by itself was a disaster in process thinking and the missing parts make it even worse. We are the California connection to so many marijuana busts in other states that we as a county should be charged under RICO statutes for conspiracy to commit and intent to distribute. Just my thoughts,

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Posted on: 2019-09-28 08:57:02   By: Anonymous
 
From: jlaguar@caltel.com [mailto:jlaguar@caltel.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:29 PM

To: Bill ; Michael C. Oliveira 

Cc: Clyde Clapp ; Dennis Mills ; Gary Tofanelli ; Jack Garamendi ; Timothy Lutz 

Subject: Re: Mr Oliviera BOS meeting 7.11.17
Well Oliveria... as a Marine myself I told you were not loyal and now someone else sees right through you also. You do not deserve to be called Marine. One Marine to one who has lost his Semper Fi. You lost your loyalty and and respect for yourself.

You disgust me as I have said before. 

Your loyal to another pot growing season and that's it. Give the chair to someone who can make decisions.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:29:01   By: Anonymous
     
    Fukc clyde crapp and Denise Mills.

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Posted on: 2019-09-28 08:57:30   By: Anonymous
 
On July 11, 2017 8:57:19 PM EDT, Bill wrote:
Mr. Oliviera,
In response to your statement made at the conclusion of the BOS meeting on July 11, I have the following comment for you.
I never mentioned your son, I merely referred to ‘an immediate family member’. I never intimated any wrong doing regarding your son. In fact, I didn’t accuse you of any wrong doing, I simply asked if your situation would be a ‘conflict of interest’.
It was insulting, as a veteran, to listen to you rant on about the virtues of marines. Most marines I know stood in front of the title ‘Marine’ to protect it. You choose to hide behind the word ‘Marine’ and use it as a shield to protect yourself.
It is sad that you rely upon some title or former service to establish your credibility. Any real man I know stands forward, ready for scrutiny

without fear because of his strength of character. You sir, are a coward and would sully the reputation of a fine organization like the U.S. Marine Corps for your own ends and to protect yourself from legitimate scrutiny.
You have dishonored the flag, you have dishonored the Country, and you have dishonored the Corps, and more importantly, you have dishonored yourself.
Since you choose to share your private comments, regarding me, with others, I will return the favor and share my comments regarding you, with them as well.
Bill McManus


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Alice of Los Altos
Posted on: 2019-09-28 08:59:55   By: Anonymous
 
Call the cops, Alice. Most of us moved here to get away from Crazy Bay Area liberals like Alice.

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    Re: Alice of Los Altos
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:30:18   By: Anonymous
     
    —Wacko with too much time on her hands who makes a hobby out of trying to shut down a thriving, non polluting industry. Alice has never been to a farm that is following the states guidelines, she simply doesn’t like the industry and will continue to spread fear by confusing people with the acts of illegal farms trying to compare them to legal farms. If she really cares about the environment she should be focusing on vineyard pesticide use, county / cal trans use of herbicides on roads, and personal property owners spraying store bought herbicides/ insecticides as cannabis growers have to get finished product tested in a laboratory with results showing parts per billion. NO HARMFUL CHEMICALS ARE USED FOR CA. LEGAL CANNABIS FARMING.

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      Re: Alice of Los Altos /\/\ NO HARMFUL CHEMICAL IS USED....
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:59:55   By: Anonymous
       
      You can't do better than that Tronald? Wake up and smell the coffee! This ain't gonna fly!

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos /\/\ NO HARMFUL CHEMICAL IS USED....
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:30:17   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos /\/\ NO HARMFUL CHEMICAL IS USED....
        Posted on: 2019-10-03 14:09:18   By: Anonymous
         


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      Re: NO HARMFUL CHEMICALS?!?
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:31:48   By: Anonymous
       
      That’s an extremely disingenuous statement, and verifiably untrue.

      Here’s the thing: From Politico, July 2019:

      “....one widespread side effect of marijuana legalization in the U.S.: In many cases it has fueled, rather than eliminated, the black market. In Los Angeles, unlicensed businesses greatly outnumber legal ones; in Oregon, a glut of low-priced legal cannabis has pushed illegal growers to export their goods across borders into other states where it’s still illegal, leaving law enforcement overwhelmed. Three years after Massachusetts voters approved full legalization of marijuana, most of the cannabis economy consists of unlicensed “private clubs,” home growing operations and illicit sales.”

      THAT’S the problem. Legal “farmers” will be pushed out of their semi-“legitimate” (they have to get away with everything they can due to all of the onerous regulations) business by black market farmers who grow stealthily under all of the confusion and chaos that is inherent in the industry.

      It is the commercial marijuana industry ITSELF that is corrupt, no matter how finely any county or state tries to legislate production.

      BAN COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA CULTIVATION IN CALAVERAS COUNTY.

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        Re: NO HARMFUL CHEMICALS?!?
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 20:58:10   By: Anonymous
         
        The beginnings of any new regulations will have growing pains (pardon the pun), that is not a reason to scrap regulations.


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      Re: Alice of Los Altos
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:29:57   By: Anonymous
       
      No Names of the Non-Elected

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 15:07:29   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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          Re: Alice of Los Altos
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:02:52   By: Anonymous
           
          No Names of the Non-Elected

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:06:20   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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          Re: Alice of Los Altos
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:31:43   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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            Re: Alice of Los Altos /\/\ look up Alice's miniskirt
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 14:05:56   By: Anonymous
             
            No names of the non-elected

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              Re: Alice of Los Altos /\/\ look up Alice's miniskirt
              Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:55:25   By: Anonymous
               
              Thank you.

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      Re: Alice of Los Altos
      Posted on: 2019-09-29 10:18:54   By: Anonymous
       
      "trying to shut down a thriving, non polluting industry"

      If you believe that, please visit my website: bridgesforsalecheap.com

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      Re: Alice of Los Altos
      Posted on: 2019-09-29 23:02:53   By: Anonymous
       
      No other types of farms have this massive amount of criminals and felons coming from far and wide to steal the product and money. Endangering safety and quality of life for everyone else living there. The industry needs to remain in large cities, inside buildings with their own 24 hour security. Large cities that also have the large back up police force when the danger elevates.

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-30 11:18:13   By: Anonymous
         
        Cannabis fees and taxes made extra hires and raises at the Sheriff's office possible. There is quite a bit of theft and crime associated with many other crops. Farm implements are expensive, desirable to thieves. Because rural communities are spread out with long law enforcement response times, farms and ranches do experience a lot of crime. We have meth addicts stealing constantly in our rural community. Stop with the double standards.

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          Re: Alice of Los Altos
          Posted on: 2019-09-30 13:05:20   By: Anonymous
           
          No other crop is so valuable on the plant or in the field that there are consistent and numerous murders, shootings, and other violence. Stop making excuses. Stop with the mistruths and reality distortion. Not believing you.

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          Re: Alice of Los Altos
          Posted on: 2019-10-01 00:25:33   By: Anonymous
           
          Uh-no. Not telling the truth. Gee. I hadn't heard of anyone's backhoes, tractors, and front loaders being stolen until commercial cultivation reared its head here. This doesn't account for all the non-violent crime not reported because growers don't want us to know. Did I forget the violent crime? Oh yes. There's that.

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            Re: Alice of Los Altos
            Posted on: 2019-10-01 11:41:25   By: Anonymous
             
            Well I guess because you didn't hear about something it never happens. Gee, rethink

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    Re: Alice of Los Altos
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:43:27   By: Anonymous
     
    You are mistaken. Apparently it was Planning Chair Michelle Plotnik who called Law Enforcement when many, many of us stood for our right to Public Comment under CEQA. She had denied us this right in an effort to prevent us from commenting, a clear violation under State of California law. Even after being informed of this law, and her violation, next at the following meeting she attempted to unlawfully silence us again by disallowing Public Comment. I then called the Administrative Business Line of the Calaveras County Sheriff's Dept. to inform them I planned to politely and succinctly participate in Public Comment under CEQA. Later Chair Plotnik stated that we would be allowed merely three minutes for Public Comment when the published time allotment is 5 minutes. Despite us pointing that out to her, she persisted in only allowing 3 minutes, another violation. In my opinion, when one makes a mistake, just fess up. When one doesn't know that answer to a question, just say so. Then go find the answer. None of this is that hard. Someone is (or some people are) confused here - and it's not me.

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      Re: Alice of Los Altos
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 15:11:53   By: Anonymous
       
      The deputies arrived after Sheriff's Rick observed Alice disrupting the meeting while watching the video stream. Chair Plotnik didn't need to make the call. Rick was watching and sent in several deputies because banners have no manners.

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:07:55   By: Anonymous
         
        Chair Plotnik should resign or be sued. She broke the law, denied rights, doesn't know her job, or even how to run a meeting. Her blatant biases are obvious. What's worse, she is an architect who thinks a 6 fence will keep kids out? She is a professional who stated on record those 6' fences are good because then growers "won't have to get a permit." She is either lying or is unaware of children's abilities, doesn't care, or just wants to not make any of kind of real business requirements for growers, none of which are good.

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          Re: Alice of Los Altos
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:21:33   By: Anonymous
           
          ^^Is this the crazy white haired midget banster speaking, or Bill McAnus?

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:29:40   By: Anonymous
         
        Nope. Not the truth, but I'm not surprised. It wasn't the Sheriff who sent them.
        The arriving officers indicated that they were called there.

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          Re: Alice of Los Altos
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 10:01:22   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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            Re: Alice of Los Altos
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:38:11   By: Anonymous
             
            No. Not even. She didn't "fled". When she runs, it looks a whole lot faster than that.

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              Re: Alice of Los Altos
              Posted on: 2019-09-29 22:42:13   By: Anonymous
               
              Speaking in the third person about yourself fools nobody. You already said that to Scott on the Enterprise right after your first meltdown.

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 23:10:08   By: Anonymous
         
        Banners have no manners. You and your friends here, threatening rape of the women here show your true face.

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-10-01 00:38:18   By: Anonymous
         
        Ba-Ha! If four Calaveras County Sheriff deputies are sitting around watching our Sheriff sit around and watch a bunch of people sitting around in some Planning Commission meeting being video streamed, then we all have worse problems than we know.
        1. Our Sheriff doesn't have time for such drivel.
        2. Our deputies are not being paid to watch our Sheriff watch videos.
        3. You are likely hallucinating or just making stuff up.
        4. Did I say that our Sheriff doesn't have time for such drivel??

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      No names of the non-elected
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:32:41   By: Anonymous
       
      No names of the non-elected

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    Re: Alice of Los Altos
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:45:53   By: Anonymous
     
    Incorrect. My husband and I live here, vote here, pay taxes here, and more. Your old crappy data still makes me smile.

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      Re: Alice of Los Altos
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:46:36   By: Anonymous
       
      Look at every business that is legitimate and you will find a percentage of people breaking the rules. You just don’t like weed, therefore you automatically assume all local farmers are untrustworthy and are going to break the rules. BRING CANNABIS BACK TO CALAVERAS!

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:22:38   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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        Re: Alice of Los Altos
        Posted on: 2019-10-01 00:25:33   By: Anonymous
         
        Nope. There's no up side here. Small regulated California growers can't make money because California cannabis laws are not written for them. They just cost us all money. This is a fact that no one can dispute. Wreck our environment, wreck classroom learning due to the odors brought in so strong it is making many ill, and wreck the right of other property owners to just enjoy their homes. What is the point?

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Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:01:32   By: Anonymous
 
From: Timothy Lutz 

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:45 PM

To: Dennis Mills 

Subject: FW: Environmental Registry - Calaveras County and the danger of Commercial Cultivation
I want to make sure we’re not duplicating effort and inundating Department staff. I have been actively tracking this project and facilitating meetings when needed to keep things moving. Did you want to discuss a strategy on this one/one? I have some concerns on the scope of Mr. Mcmanus’ request and we can talk through some of those.


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Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:02:48   By: Anonymous
 
From: Jim LaGuardia [mailto:jlaguar@caltel.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:59 AM
To: Michael C. Oliveira
Cc: Gary Tofanelli ; Dennis Mills ; Clyde Clapp ; Jack Garamendi ; Rick Dibasilio
Subject: Wounded Yuba County sheriff
Well now, this may happen within our Sheriff department as a result of your continuous study sessions and lack of leadership. Make a decision to vote on the ban and move on! You put our community at risk and even higher at risk our Sheriff and his deputies.
Oh I forgot, you were a reservist, part time marine and never learned the
real meaning of Semper FI or the structure of responsibility and command. You never ever were deployed...I clearly understand your lack of leadership and command now! Cannot wait to look you in the eye so called marine! Reserves WTH!
Full Time Marine
26 months in Viet Nam Self-disciplined-Systems Engineer Leadership skills
James LaGuardia

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:04:59   By: Anonymous
     
    From: Dennis Mills 

    Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:09 PM

    To: Jim LaGuardia 

    Subject: Re: Toxic waste from U.S. pot farms alarms experts
    Jim,
    I don't often respond but the recent environmental crimes found on eradication sites recently is exactly the problem I have been talking about for months in our county. Finding 157 environmental citations tells us our lands are being destroyed and where are the environmentalists to cry out about "mother earth"? I spoke to the Chief of the North Central Division of the State Waterboard to explain counties that are having these problems are not communicating with water agencies as to the level of the problem as it will and does affect the long term watersheds. In our county, I am unable to find any evidence of cleanup or mitigation on any site we have identified in the eradication process. Even the "approved" grows in many cases graded years ago without permits and have never been required to present as-built plans or get the required permits. Further those contractors that are doing this work without permits are not having their contractors licenses challenged or those without licenses are not be prosecuted by the state for working without a license. All they do is use the "M" word and miraculously the exemptions start.
    The cleanup responsibility starts with those that are elected in our county. We need to find people to run in 2018 that agree to keep our communities safe and those that want to run for public office should begin to commit to the process now.
    Regards,

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Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:05:31   By: Anonymous
 
On Aug 6, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Jim LaGuardia
wrote:
Oliveria
Your legacy continues to put our environment at risk along with
the safety of our communities and our Sheriff and his deputies.
Need a study session on this also Oliveria? Can you read and
gasp the basic understanding of those who care and what the
experts state?
Have you ever responded to the invite from Leslie Fontes or are
you so ignorant and self-centered not to respond.

Place the ban in front of the BOS to vote on.

From a real full time Marine...not a fake one who calls himself
loyal. Oliveria = Deserter , just like the county position Oliveria
holds TRAITOR, and TURNCOAT.

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Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:09:00   By: Anonymous
 
From: Jim LaGuardia [mailto:jlaguar@caltel.com]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:03 PM
To: Michael C. Oliveira Cc: Gary Tofanelli ; Dennis Mills ; Clyde Clapp ; Jack Garamendi
Subject: RE: Loyalty
Your challenge is now on you disloyal piece of crap! You made a threat to me, you better fulfill it when I show before or after the BOS meeting of my choice!
Bring your friend Jack to clean you up afterwards!
You are nothing more than a deserter.
Jim LaGuardia


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Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:12:51   By: Anonymous
 
From: Bill
Date: August 11, 2017 at 4:45:11 PM CDT
To: info@bancommercialcultivation.com
Subject: Ban Committee Update - Environmental Registry
Friends,
Here is a copy of the letter I sent to Dennis Mills and his response, regarding our request that the board
adopt a plan to create a ‘Registry of Environmental Citations’. Attached is a copy of our proposed registry
requirements. Hope all of you will thank Dennis!!
Bill
Dennis,
I apologize for not running this by you prior to submitting it to the board members. We feel this is a 'white
hot' issue with many residents and I wanted to get the process moving as quickly as possible. Besides
the normal terror that residents experience from nearby pot grows, the environment aspect does not
necessarily go away even if the grow goes away. Many residents within our broad group live an 'Off Grid'
or nearly 'Off Grid' life style. Others use their lands for vegetable or other food production. Still others,
maintain livestock for personal consumption or sale.
Whether in RR zones, or any other zones, the hazards of pollution sources commonly found in pot grows,
both applicant and non-applicant, present a clear and present danger that may be odorless, colorless, or
otherwise undetectable. The migration of these hazardous contaminants from the source property into,
onto, or over adjoining or nearby properties is a major concern for residents. Even knowing that multiple
citations may have been issued on problem properties does not provide residents with enough information for them to take precautionary measures. Couple that with potential infiltration into local
aquifers, and the spectre of silent and deadly pollutants affecting broad areas of our rural county
becomes a very major issue and problem for the board to contend with.
With no 'base line' measurements, residents who pay for their own samples, have nothing to compare
them to. Of course, the downstream, downhill, downwind migrations of these dangerous compounds and
chemicals, presents a huge potential liability for the county. How many lawyers and how much money
could EBMUD bring to bear on our county if their water supplies should become contaminated?
I know you get the picture. I am asking for some board attention be given to the outline I presented to the
board. It will take the input from various department heads and possibly some funding to start the
process. If a public meeting is needed, I can alert our vast network of residents and I am certain the
turnout will be surprising. Even if I have to prowl the corridors of government center and meet with
department heads on an individual basis, I would like to know that we have the backing of the board.
Simply removing grows from RR neighborhoods will not eliminate or lessen the impact of contamination to
other properties. In fact, it may make the problem worse by concentrating more grows on larger lots, with
no regard to how it is zoned. Proximity and containment are stand alone issues. Location or lot size has
little, if nothing, to do with the problem.
I would welcome a discussion with you or other supervisors regarding this issue and will make myself
available at any time to discuss it.
Many thanks in advance,
Bill McManus
768-8549
Response from Dennis Mills:
This matter of the environmental damage was created by liberals in Sacramento approving pot growing in
our county and not thinking through the consequences. They are the ones that should be on the hook to
clean up their mess. I was just in Sutter Creek this afternoon talking to several Amador Supervisors and
their Sheriff. Now they know some of the problem and we need to push the narrative that everyone needs
to know where these sites are, the level of contamination, and how soon the state will be here to clean it
up and make us whole again.
My immediate goal is to have Environmental Health create a functional list of all APN's that have been
shown to contain hazardous materials or have been cited for environmental damage. The county needs
to have a clearing house that can be easily referenced by anyone including the public. The Ag
Commissioner is then required to notify the state of any products that need remediation. The more the
public learns about this damage the more outraged they will be that it is being hidden from their view to
the potential detriment of their health and the health of their families.
Don't let go of this, it is their Achilles heal right now.
Dennis Mills

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Alice of Los Altos is a real CEQA expert
Posted on: 2019-09-28 09:20:30   By: Anonymous
 
The requirement to prepare an SEIR is phrased in the negative—after an EIR is certified, an agency is prohibited from requiring an SEIR in the absence of an event that would require one. [Pub. Res. Code § 21166.] ‘‘After certif ication [of the EIR], the interests of finality are favored over the policy of encouraging public comment.’’ [Laurel Heights Improvement Ass’n v. Regents of the University of California [(1993) 6 Cal. 4th 1112, 1130, 26 Cal. Rptr. 2d 231 (‘‘Laurel Heights II’’)].] Numerous courts have explained that section 21166 elevates finality and certainty over public participation because ‘‘in-depth review has already occurred, the time for challenging the sufficiency of the original EIR has long since expired ... and the question is whether circumstances have changed enough to justify repeating a substantial portion of the process’’ [Gentry, above, 36 Cal. App. 4th at 1401, emphasis in original; accord, Moss v. County of Humboldt [(2008) 162 Cal. App. 4th 1041, 1050, 76 Cal. Rptr. 3d 428 (‘‘Moss’’)]].

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    Re: Alice of Los Altos is a real CEQA expert
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:58:54   By: Anonymous
     
    Bingo. The circumstances and environmental risk have changed significantly so that a new EIR or SEIR is required (as confirmed by the State of California Governor's Office of Planning and Research, the state agency managing General Plans, CEQA and other programs). There you have it.

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    Re: Alice of Los Altos is a real CEQA expert
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 21:00:22   By: Anonymous
     
    In quoting this concerning CEQA, someone is clearly lying about CEQA by omission.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-28 10:42:57   By: Anonymous
 
This is a poorly-written ramble that makes many claims without evidence.

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    Re: Nope, well written....
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:22:31   By: Anonymous
     
    ....and fact based.

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      Re: Nope, well written....
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:15:33   By: Anonymous
       
      Well-written*

      fact-based*

      Apparently Trump isn't the only one who needs hyphen lessons.....

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:31:26   By: Anonymous
     
    Alice, Alice, Alice,

    For someone who owns property here yet rarely spends time here, you sure have alot of B.S. to say. For over 5 years readers have heard your lying, twisting of facts and downright crazy actions. Your 15 minutes of fame is over. Even the Sherriffs office has now termed you" the crazy lady". Time to get a real-life Alice. We, locals, are sick of you.

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      Re: “We” the locals?!
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:46:44   By: Anonymous
       
      Ok, so I’m a local, and I say “Thank God for Alice Montgomery.” She speaks truth to greed and power, and the “farmers”, dispensaries, pot delivery boys, and addicts don't like it one bit.

      Ms. Montgomery puts her name and reputation out there every damn day of the week to fight the greedy pot “farmers” and the bought and paid for BOS. I don’t care what side of the fence you’re on-she’s brave as hell to put here money where her mouth is and stand up and fight for what she, and many of us, believe is right.

      You don’t have any actual positive facts to give about commercial marijuana cultivation in the United States, so you just use that old high school thing: “Hey, Alice, none of the popular kids like you!”

      I admire Ms. Montgomery for her bravery.

      Commercial marijuana cultivation is an environmental nightmare for the United States.

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        Re: “We” the locals?!
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:24:22   By: Anonymous
         
        Thank You Dennis Mills

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        Re: “We” the locals?!
        Posted on: 2019-10-01 11:51:01   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:07:53   By: Anonymous
       
      Nope. All of this I wrote is sadly true and in the Proposed (unlawful) Addendum to the 3 year old, inapplicable, inappropriate EIR and also the Proposed Regulation. Please fact check before you embarrass yourself further.
      Alice Montgomery

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:58:04   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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      Re: /\/\ Alice-a crazy lady?
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:17:59   By: Anonymous
       
      No names of the non-elected

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:56:24   By: Anonymous
       
      Trevor-the-truth-bender, the Sheriff's Office said no such thing. They advised me not to talk with them in front of you or your mom. Enough said.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:27:06   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 13:52:03   By: Anonymous
           
          Go ahead.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:21:27   By: Anonymous
     
    Nope. It's regrettable you think this is poorly written. All of it is fact based and fact checked against the latest rendition of the unlawful Proposed Addendum to the old, inappropriate EIR and the Proposed Regulation that is a blank check. Know that the Planning Chair Michelle Plotnik violated CEQA, and did so on multiple occasions, in multiple meetings despite being clearly informed of such laws and exact provisions. I believe that Planning Director Peter Maurer is being pressured, as it is not his practice to knowingly and purposefully violate State of California environmental law, especially when the provisions are pointed out to him. Should the Board of Supervisors vote on these two issues, the Addendum to the Inappropriate old EIR and the deeply flawed Proposed Regulation, especially in light of not have a fully voted upon, enacted, and implemented (must be all three things) General Plan, and knowing the score, they will also be in violation of CEQA and a host of other State of Calif. laws. The State of California Governor's Office of Planning and Research (specifically their director) knows what's up and has confirmed all of this is unlawful. Even with a completely compliant General Plan, the BOS knows about the non-compliant Proposed Addendum and non-compliant Proposed Regulation, two issues that are in violation of several State laws. We will just have to see what they decide.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:44:35   By: Anonymous
       
      You clearly feel passionately about this issue. I get that.

      Look at the historical economy here: gold mining, logging, the cement plant, and the asbestos mine (the largest in the west!).

      I'm sorry, but growing plants (intended for human consumption, regulated by state and local law), is hands down the LEAST hazardous way to make a living here in the last 150 years.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:15:41   By: Anonymous
         
        Aerial photos show increasing environmental damage. Commercial cultivation is causing havoc on our land, our streams, our waterways, our roads, and more. School children in every public school are harmed due to the strong odor that is sadly accompanying some of our students to school. Don't believe me? It is reported by the administration of all the county schools. There's a call out for the community to donate changes of clothes and backpacks so curriculum can be successfully delivered in the classroom and successfully received by all students without what is now a health issue due to the odor.

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:40:43   By: Anonymous
           
          Do you have any idea how long cannabis has been grown here? This isn't new.
          Odor isn't a health issue. I'm sure schools in Gilroy have changes of clothes for garlicky kids too. Farming has odors, and with "Right to Farm", those odors are exempt from nuisance regulations.

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            Re:
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 13:54:13   By: Anonymous
             
            Wow. Incorrect, out of touch, and just plain false.

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              Re:
              Posted on: 2019-09-29 15:16:37   By: Anonymous
               
              Yes, those words perfectly describe this ridiculous opinion piece.

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              Re:
              Posted on: 2019-09-30 13:26:34   By: Anonymous
               
              California Health and Safety code Section 41700 does not apply to odors emanating from any of the following:

              (1) Agricultural operations necessary for the growing of crops or the raising of fowl or animals

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2019-09-30 00:13:47   By: Anonymous
         
        It only brings back the lawless wild west. Many killed and harmed by the masses that seek to take, by force or death, drugs that are here. Bringing endless crime to the small county. Making it a place where people can no longer be safe or live in peace.

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2019-09-30 11:25:49   By: Anonymous
           
          Bans encourage black market activity. Regulation brings revenue and enhanced enforcement tools. The ban has drained county funding.

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Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:20:29   By: Anonymous
 
I’m a registered Democrat (sigh) and 100% OPPOSED to commercial marijuana cultivation in Calaveras County for the EXACT reasons described by the brave, resourceful and desperate (like me) Ms. Montgomery.

I have lived in Calaveras County all of my life. I love it here. It makes me sick to think of the BOS ruining our quality of life, our beautiful Sierra Nevadas, and our county government for the sake of stupidity and greed.

I don’t give a damn who smokes what.

Commercial marijuana (let’s call it what it is-no “cannabis” white washing) production is an environmental nightmare.

Please, BOS & Ms. Callaway, esp.: LISTEN TO ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

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    Re: Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:31:46   By: Anonymous
     
    Oh, for goodness sake. It's already here - along with meth - and has been for some time. Many of your fine, upstanding generational ranch families grow a few rows in the back forty. Better to have a regulated, environmentally monitored, revenue-generating (for the county) market than the grows that keep popping up like a continuing Whack a Mole game. Even the feds have come out to say medicinal MJ is beneficial with many health issues including cancer. The SO budget is only going to last so long and the illegal operations will continue.

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      Re: Black Market pot production explodes with legalization
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:53:08   By: Anonymous
       
      “....one widespread side effect of marijuana legalization in the U.S.: In many cases it has fueled, rather than eliminated, the black market. In Los Angeles, unlicensed businesses greatly outnumber legal ones; in Oregon, a glut of low-priced legal cannabis has pushed illegal growers to export their goods across borders into other states where it’s still illegal, leaving law enforcement overwhelmed. Three years after Massachusetts voters approved full legalization of marijuana, most of the cannabis economy consists of unlicensed “private clubs,” home growing operations and illicit sales.”

      Nobody cares who smokes what. People can do whatever the hell they want-prohibition is not at all what this is about. Commercial marijuana cultivation is a filthy, environmentally degrading business.

      Yeah, you are totally correct-that’s EXACTLY what we should do: Anybody in Calaveras County should be able to grow a little here and there in their own gardens. But....

      NO COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA CULTIVATION PLANTATIONS.

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      Re: Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
      Posted on: 2019-10-01 00:43:04   By: Anonymous
       
      Of for goodness sakes, it is everywhere and those contiguous counties recognize that and BAN. The only one allowing commercial even partly is one - and only indoors. So the It's-everywhere-so-let's-have-a-No-Rules regulation argument is the silliest of all non-date points. Go on ahead and have it all you want because California allots for individuals. You're probably like our commissioners who say it's o.k. near everyone but them.

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    Re: Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:09:41   By: Anonymous
     
    No names of the non-elected

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    Re: Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:54:01   By: Anonymous
     
    Typical nanny state liberal

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    Re: Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 10:24:49   By: Anonymous
     
    "Commercial marijuana (let’s call it what it is-no “cannabis” white washing) production is an environmental nightmare."

    Bingo! Go to any pot growing supply store and look at the chemicals for sale. Then go to any nursery or farm supply store and look at the pesticides they sell there.

    Pot growing is a dirty business in many ways.

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      Re: Thank you, Ms. Montgomery
      Posted on: 2019-09-29 10:41:43   By: Anonymous
       
      Look at the AG Department list of chemicals used in all ag.,logging, and public works. Cannabis is the least chemically intensive. The same products as used in leafy green vegetables. At Commissioner Kevin Wright said the registered cannabis farmers had very good rates of compliance.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-28 11:33:49   By: Anonymous
 
I've so wanted to repeat the line from that old movie for some time now when I listen to the ban proponents, "Alice doesn't live here anymore." (Though delete the word "anymore." ) Simply an outside agitator.

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    Re: Nope, sorry. Ms. Montgomery speaks for a LOT of longtime locals
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 12:01:25   By: Anonymous
     
    We don’t want commercial marijuana cultivation in Calaveras County. My family is from here, I raised my kids here, and we both retired here.

    Stop trying to use that tired old high school “you’re not one of us” argument in place of facts.

    Alice Montgomery is bravely speaking out for hundreds of locals who will lose their butts when their property values plummet due to commercial marijuana cultivation in their immediate areas. We don’t welcome circuit trimmers, or illegal honey oil producers or sketchy 2 a.m. traffic speeding down rural one lane roads. We don’t welcome the crappy low wage “careers” offered to our kids for growing and tending the weed for wealthy and greedy “farmers”. We don’t welcome the ruin of little communities like Mountain Ranch.

    Go get ‘em, Alice.

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      Also? “Medical marijuana” is bogus!
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 12:10:03   By: Anonymous
       
      From the NIH, 2018-

      “People with cancer who use marijuana say that it benefits them in several ways: by quelling nausea, suppressing vomiting, increasing appetite, relieving pain, and soothing anxiety. Clinical studies indicate that marijuana does none of these things as well as the best medications available, and inhaling marijuana smoke decreases lung capacity, as well as as causing a marked decrease in blood circulation.”

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        Re: Also? “Medical marijuana” is bogus!
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 12:14:56   By: Anonymous
         
        Smoking or ingesting marijuana significantly increases agitation and paranoia in this with debilitating PTSD and related mental illnesses, like bipolar and depression.

        (Actual FACTS from The National Institutes of Health, not a popularity contest pitting Ms. Montgomery vs. The Cool Stoner Kids)

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        Re: Also? “Medical marijuana” is bogus!
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:01:37   By: Anonymous
         
        No one cares what individuals do. No one is trying to prevent anyone from getting what they need to help their health. Commercial marijuana cultivation is environmentally devastating to this county and hasn't provided one cent - which may be why no one is doing a forensic accounting. It would be too revealing.

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          Re: Also? “Medical marijuana” is bogus!
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:50:55   By: Anonymous
           
          $13 million in Measure C to the general fund is a lot of money. Too bad the ban supervisors cost the county $26 million over the last two years thanks to the failed ban.

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            Re: Also? “Medical marijuana” is bogus!
            Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:19:15   By: Anonymous
             
            What a crock of absolute baloney. Measure C is sued away. This load of mess called marijuana cultivation has cost the county and all of us who pay taxes, a bundle. Growers are lying - mostly to themselves.

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              Re: Also? “Medical marijuana” is bogus!
              Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:32:39   By: Anonymous
               
              Why do all of the counties around us (remember that's ALL the contiguous counties around us) have BANS with the exception of one that allows commercial indoors, if this is such a great thing?

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              Re: “Medical marijuana is NOT bogus!
              Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:24:50   By: Anonymous
               
              Measure C has not been sued away. The supervisors spent it to balance the last several budgets. What a pathetic liar.

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                Re: “Medical marijuana is NOT bogus!
                Posted on: 2019-09-29 13:56:17   By: Anonymous
                 
                Nope. False. Flat out lie on money.

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Also? Calaveras Pot Farmers are Giant P*ssies!
Posted on: 2019-09-28 12:32:54   By: Anonymous
 
They only grow up here because if they had to duke it out for water rights, etc., with ACTUAL farmers down in the valleys, they’d get there whining asses handed to them.

Don’t try to feed us that crap about weather, etc. Go try and grow your commercial “crop” in Ceres or Farmington, you cowards. Try growing in ACTUAL farming country. You wouldn’t stand a chance with real farmers, and you all know it!

NO COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA CULTIVATION IN CALAVERAS COUNTY.

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    Re: Also? Calaveras Pot Farmers are Giant P*ssies!
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 19:25:56   By: Anonymous
     
    This is a right to farm county.

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Alice is a nutcase!!
Posted on: 2019-09-28 12:59:55   By: Anonymous
 
Shes a closet drunk as well!!

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    Re: Alice is a nutcase!!
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:54:35   By: Anonymous
     
    Incorrect. Because it triggers migraines, I avoid alcohol. Do you have the habit of pretending to know and comment on people you do not know at all?

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      Re: Alice is a nutcase!!
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 17:58:49   By: Anonymous
       
      All of sudden you dont drink? Or maybe you just dont drink when your on pills?! Lmao you crazy junky! This county dont give sh!# what you think havent you realized that already you nutcase? Its funny you think your pea brain is going to make a difference. At the end of all of this the county will do what they want! So get over it you old fart!💩

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        No names of the non-elected
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 23:20:40   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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They speak for everyone?
Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:04:36   By: Anonymous
 
Funny hasn't everyone noticed that its the same group of people that are against weed trying to say they speak for All of calaveras county? Last i checked calaveras county has a population bigger than 15 people! Get with the times people it's 2019 marijuana is no bigger a deal than that beer in your hand!!

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    Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ Get with the times people!
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 13:13:55   By: Anonymous
     
    On the contrary-I think you all are being outnumbered by us ban folks. Read between the lines-WE DON'T WANT CANNABIS CULTIVATION!

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    Re: They speak for everyone?
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:05:37   By: Anonymous
     
    Oh thank goodness~! You have just pointed out that more than 41,500 people live here, that Prop. 64 didn't even pass here. The entire Measure C only passed as a stop-gap in case that awful Measure D passed. This county is (I'd like to think) far more intelligent than that. Is marijuana here? Yes because Prop. 64 says it is. Can any adult have some? Yep. Is commercial cultivation beneficial, not in any way it is measured. Rethink, retrain, retool, recover.

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      Re: They speak for everyone?
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:16:35   By: Anonymous
       
      We are so out numbered? Yet why are they getting ready to lift the ban? Lol you guys get all upset trying to stop something that is going to pass! Lmao. Starting 2020 the permits will be back. Just sit patiently and watch. This is America! Anything that has to do with big dollar signs always wins!!!

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        Re: They speak for everyone?
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:33:05   By: Anonymous
         
        Know, (Mr. or Ms.) "Speak for Everyone" that you don't. You cheated to get at least one supervisor into office who padded votes and has a demonstrated ethical, if not legal set of problems pertaining to professional conduct. Now if the BOS proceeds, it will be breaking the law, in fact several of them. It's as simple as that.

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        Re: They speak for everyone?
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:37:55   By: Anonymous
         
        What permits in 2020? This is a lie. The proposed regulation doesn't even require growers to have permits to grow. They (you) can start right away with "Validations" "Conditional Use Permits" "Administrative Use Permits" and other B.S. that other business owners could only dream of qualifying for. Can you imagine Peter Maurer allowing a restaurant to open without a fully executed Permit and Business License? How about a home owner being allowed to move in to a remodel or new home without an Occupancy Permit?

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          Re: They speak for everyone?
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 15:22:53   By: Anonymous
           
          All the dorks getting upset over marijuana lol!! Maybe you guys should go smoke a joint and chill!! Lmfaoooo

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            Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 06:35:30   By: Anonymous
             
            I did smoke a joint many years ago and it led to a life of destruction. Marijuana was a gateway drug for me like many others and I don't smoke it any more or take any more artificial substances (drug wise) in my body! If you folks like to smoke it and raise your 6 little plants, then knock yourselves out and die young! What it will do to you did the same for me. I don't care just as long as we don't have these big commercial cannabis operations here and it never worked before-"pre ban" times that is!

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              Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint
              Posted on: 2019-09-29 11:17:23   By: Anonymous
               
              No names of the non-elected

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                Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint
                Posted on: 2019-09-29 13:38:10   By: Anonymous
                 
                He wrote that first he started drinking. That was the gateway. He went on to be a lowlife who stole from his own mother, lied constantly and fried his brain with PCP, and speed. He led a life of crime and now thinks himself qualified to lecture all of us on how to live a "decent" life. What a hypocrite.

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                  Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint/\/\ started drinking....
                  Posted on: 2019-09-29 15:37:31   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Correction: I stated about my recollection of how I started drinking first and I didn't say anything about alcohol being a gateway drug. How can you just assume that? Geez, you folks are really trying too hard! Wrong again! Just keep on digging LOL!

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                    Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint/\/\ started drinking....
                    Posted on: 2019-09-29 17:05:09   By: Anonymous
                     
                    You didn't say it was the gateway, but that sounds like denial on your part. If you started drinking and smoking tobacco, both are more addictive and more likely how you began a wasted user and loser life of crime. Doesn't your good buddy say there wasn't much THC in that old school weed?

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                      Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint/\/\ started drinking....
                      Posted on: 2019-09-29 20:43:11   By: Anonymous
                       
                      Don't explain, Steven. They just pivot to distract, obstruct, and mislead. You sticking to the facts and your experience are your greatest strengths - yet what disarms and alarms the dishonest people the most - is your honesty. Good.

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                        Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ All the dorks should smoke a joint/\/\ started drinking....
                        Posted on: 2019-09-29 23:14:59   By: Anonymous
                         
                        You two should get a room It's gross watching this online flirting.

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            Re: They speak for everyone?
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 08:43:13   By: Anonymous
             
            The dorks are the ones who invested in something as sure of a loss as small-grow commercial cultivation in California. The "cool kids" don't do stupid stuff like that, and/or if they did, they wouldn't blame others for their business decisions. They's be cool about it, figure it as a loss and a part of doing business, gather their wits and their grit, and learn from their mistakes and move on. You know. Like the rest of us cool kids.

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              Re: They speak for everyone?
              Posted on: 2019-09-29 16:58:11   By: Anonymous
               
              You guys are so cool!! Lmaooo with broke ass bank accounts!! Lmao we invested in pot!! And became millionaires!!! You guys are a bunch of haters!! Keep growing !!! And keep ballin on all you hee haww dorks!!! Lmaooo

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        Re: They speak for everyone?
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:39:47   By: Anonymous
         
        The Chain of Command starts with the citizen - and you are not granted the right to pollute our environment, adversely affect our health with your toxins and objectionable and unhealthy odors, or make us unsafe. Period.

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          Re: They speak for everyone?
          Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:45:25   By: Anonymous
           
          Its still going to pass!! So get over it you old fart!! 😆

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            Re: They speak for everyone?
            Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:03:27   By: Anonymous
             
            No names of the non-elected

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              Re: They speak for everyone?
              Posted on: 2019-09-28 22:35:12   By: Anonymous
               
              Go ahead and grow your "flower" - all 6 of them.

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        Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ This is America
        Posted on: 2019-09-28 15:12:53   By: Anonymous
         
        And I say "burn baby burn!"

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          Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ This is America
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 11:19:27   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non elected

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            Re: They speak for everyone?/\/\ This is America/\/\ STFU SRS
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 15:39:28   By: Anonymous
             
            Freedom of speech!

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Alice is a real CEQA expert
Posted on: 2019-09-28 14:07:41   By: Anonymous
 


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    Re: Alice is a real CEQA expert
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 15:54:43   By: Anonymous
     
    No names of the non-elected

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-28 20:58:24   By: Anonymous
 
Anybody that thinks a county full of marijuana growers is good for the county needs to just look at the crime rates and problems in Humboldt County . My house is sold and I’m moving out of the county good luck to you all you will need it.
I’ll give the growers one thing, they are typically hard workers.
I’m “outta”here.


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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-28 21:06:49   By: Anonymous
     
    dont let the door hit you on the way our loser

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2019-09-28 23:15:35   By: Anonymous
       
      You would've gotten better value when regulation is in place.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 23:50:34   By: Anonymous
     
    More normal moral people moving out of the state everyday. The throngs of illegals and homeless will just keep moving in welcomed by Gavin. They will take everything, and kill those who have anything to take. Good luck keeping them out of your so called farms. I'm sure you won't mind giving them your crop of drugs.

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Commercial marijuana cultivation is WRONG for Rural California!
Posted on: 2019-09-28 23:33:28   By: Anonymous
 
Tell you what: It’s a fact that commercial tobacco cultivation, driven by the medical facts that we have about tobacco consumption, has declined precipitously since the 1980’s. The soil used to farm tobacco in the American South East has seriously degraded due to the nature of tobacco farming. Why don’t all you pot farmers relocate to the Southeastern U.S.? Why the pressing need to “farm” commercial marijuana in the glorious Sierra Nevadas? What do you feel like you are “entitled” to cultivate your water-greedy crops in a state that struggles with water rights and drought every other freakin’ year? Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? LEAVE CALIFORNIA AND GROW YOUR FILTHY CROP IN TRADITIONAL TOBACCO FARMING STATES. Moscow Mitch McConnell will back you if you’re free enough with your dough....

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Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers
Posted on: 2019-09-28 23:56:22   By: Anonymous
 
No Names of the Non-Elected

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    Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 04:26:08   By: Anonymous
     
    Well said, specially about our corrupt supervisors.

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    Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 06:27:31   By: Anonymous
     
    Ditto-yep! They are so right about that! BAN!

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      Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers
      Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:32:37   By: Anonymous
       
      No names of the non-elected

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        Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 14:01:29   By: Anonymous
         
        You are screaming out-of-control-in-caps at someone with experience that makes a lot of sense. Sort yourself out, please and stick to the facts.

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          The man stole from his mother, wasted his life, and cost taxpayers a bundle.
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 15:32:10   By: Anonymous
           
          You're defending an admitted thief who was in and out of prison for most of his life. Hypocrites.

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        Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers /\/\ STFU steven r smith
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 21:17:49   By: Anonymous
         
        Sorry-don't live in Angels Camp but in VS. You must have me mixed up with another Steve. So go smoke another one LOL!

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          Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers /\/\ STFU steven r smith
          Posted on: 2019-09-30 08:43:28   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non elected

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    This opinion piece shows that Mrs Montgomery can't understand plain English
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 07:07:07   By: Anonymous
     
    Don't trust a bigot and known liar to interpret this proposed ordinance. Watch the meetings, read the ordinance and direct questions to county staff.

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      No names of the non-elected
      Posted on: 2019-09-29 07:52:20   By: Anonymous
       
      No names of the non-elected

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        Re: This opinion piece shows that Mrs Montgomery can't understand plain English
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 08:39:15   By: Anonymous
         
        Nothing about this Proposed Regulation is strict or regulated as you claim. Timothy Laddish buried provisions in it that one must look up to see that it (the sentences) turn on themselves and reverse their full scope. You do realize no one administers growers' compliance right now as admitted in Public Comment. This is a sham.

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        No names of the non-elected
        Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:07:34   By: Anonymous
         
        No names of the non-elected

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          No names of the non-elected
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:15:33   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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          Re: This opinion piece shows that Mrs Montgomery can't understand plain English/\/\ Alice looks 78
          Posted on: 2019-09-29 11:24:17   By: Anonymous
           
          No names of the non-elected

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            Re: This opinion piece shows that Mrs Montgomery can't understand plain English/\/\ Alice looks 78
            Posted on: 2019-09-29 15:41:10   By: Anonymous
             
            No names of the non-elected

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    Re: Legal pot farms are a smokescreen for black market weed producers
    Posted on: 2019-09-29 09:50:07   By: Anonymous
     
    I would rather buy mine at a dispensary, knowing it was tested for contaminants.
    Taking an industry from the black market isn't something that happens overnight. But then there is tax money to pursue black market operations. I think that's why Colorado is finding more, they have the resources to look.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-09-29 08:31:55   By: Anonymous
 
Sept. 18 Planning Commissioner Timothy Laddish flat out lied in Public Comment by saying the Proposed Regulation wouldn't have Manufacturing. He himself, then buried Manufacturing and a host of other dangerous provisions in the inclusion of a reference to 3 CCR §8000. He then said we must state that commercial cultivation is "required." The rest of the commission (except Plotnik and Henderson) didn't buy into this B.S. Laddish is an attorney who took an oath. Gee.

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