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Poll Results:  Should The VA Health System Be Phased Out And Converted Into An Insurance Program?

Yes, Just Give Veterans An Insurance Card They Can Use Anywhere Including In Private Healthcare Systems   61.3% 61.3 % (176)
No, It is Better And Cheaper To Treat Them In The VA System   38.7% 38.7 % (111)


Total Votes: 287

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No Subject
Posted on: 2014-05-21 19:16:44   By: Anonymous
 
Oh right...just like our Medicare System.. a runaway
piggy bank for the con-artists, fakers and hypochondriacs !

Good show !

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2014-05-22 07:45:34   By: Anonymous
     
    Our Veterans deserve the best. Our Government doesn't do anything well other than Kill people and break things. There are 6.5 million vets under V.A. care and it is a disaster. Now they want to control the health care for over 300 million. NO THANK YOU COMMRADE.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-27 11:39:37   By: Anonymous
       
      It is NOT a disaster. George W. Bush was a disaster! Don't let a few hysterical complainers run you out of town. Why not compare the problems at the VA with those at General Motors?

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-27 19:51:15   By: Anonymous
         
        Not all of the VA Facilities are the same. Many have very poor records of treatment, poor sanitary conditions and more. Our Vets should be receiving the absolute best in all types of care from health care, educational opportunities, housing and more.

        Our government just treats them like "Disposable Heroes". Sad but true.

        Northern California Patriot Guard Rider.

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          Re: VA
          Posted on: 2014-06-04 08:56:53   By: Anonymous
           
          I agree that we treat our veterans as disposable gi units. They deserve the best treatment that we can give them, along with enhanced benefits packages such as the GI bill after WWII. We should cut the war departments budget in half and put the savings into our veterans benefits programs.

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          Re: VA
          Posted on: 2014-06-04 08:57:12   By: Anonymous
           
          I agree that we treat our veterans as disposable gi units. They deserve the best treatment that we can give them, along with enhanced benefits packages such as the GI bill after WWII. We should cut the war departments budget in half and put the savings into our veterans benefits programs.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-29 19:31:18   By: Anonymous
         
        god bless GB

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    Re: Medicare
    Posted on: 2014-05-29 05:32:20   By: Anonymous
     
    When my mom was ill in her old age, Medicare was a godsend. Home nurses showed us how to care for her and came once a week to keep tabs on her recovery. It helped with medical equipment we needed. It provided a physical therapist so she could walk again. Thank goodness for Medicare and for the fine professionals who helped us through those very dark days.

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      Re: Medicare
      Posted on: 2014-05-30 10:26:43   By: Anonymous
       
      Such a common story that few pay attention. It's more exciting to listen to Limbaugh's opinions on the subject. Sad.

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      Re: Medicare
      Posted on: 2014-05-30 10:26:54   By: Anonymous
       
      Such a common story that few pay attention. It's more exciting to listen to Limbaugh's opinions on the subject. Sad.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2014-05-21 21:15:39   By: Anonymous
 
I hope you aren't referring to veterans as fakes, hypochondriacs, etc, because if that is what you think then sign your name, and a few of us no good vets will be visiting you real soon!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2014-05-22 00:29:28   By: Anonymous
     
    Amen brother. I hope to god you are calling obama are a big joke of scam artist and not our vets, i think our vets should be making our politicians salary since they are the ones fighting for them in the first place. Btw im not a vet just a proud american who realizes I couldn't go out and live my dreams everyday if it weren't for the men and women protecting my freedom

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-22 07:41:16   By: Anonymous
       
      Just one more thing he'll sweep under the rug and hope it goes away !

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-22 07:53:08   By: Anonymous
         
        6.5 million Vets in Government health system, An absolute disaster. Now they want to control the health system for 300 million, NO THANKYOU COMMRADE!!!!

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2014-05-22 09:04:41   By: Anonymous
           
          *comrade..

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            Re:
            Posted on: 2014-05-22 15:52:03   By: Anonymous
             

            CLUELESS RUBBISH !

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              Re:
              Posted on: 2014-05-22 16:04:45   By: Anonymous
               
              BLIND LEMMING!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-27 11:32:40   By: Anonymous
       
      Obama is the Commander-in-Chief and all good vets would respect that, regardless of their personal feelings. The man was elected by the American people- twice, and deserves our respect.
      He came into office confronting a disaster as bad as what Roosevelt faced in 1933 and has turned the mess around. You complainers who have only slowed progress should be ashamed of yourselves.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-28 06:41:09   By: Anonymous
         
        hes a piece of *bleep* and I sure as hell don't respect him.

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2014-05-28 14:29:48   By: Anonymous
           
          Well that means a lot.

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2014-05-30 06:51:15   By: Anonymous
           
          bigot much?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2014-05-22 20:31:46   By: Anonymous
 
I like how the VA is a universal health care system and yet no one realizes it is. A lot of those old farts who hate on universal health care are receiving it at the same time, ahh Murica at it's finest.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2014-05-23 05:01:30   By: Anonymous
     
    A lot of those old farts don't belong going to the VA. Aint nothing wrong with them but they are old. Let em go to regular doctors and leave the VA to deal with the new generation of severely wounded.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-23 11:21:08   By: Anonymous
       
      and a lot of those old farts do belong to the VA. Get your facts straight. Oh, the rest get Medicare, another great government program

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-23 11:58:57   By: Anonymous
         
        4 years as a clerk typist in San Diego doesn't qualify you for full medical and hearing aids 40 years later unless it is a welfare system

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-28 06:42:57   By: Anonymous
         
        ahhh those old farts who fought for your right to say stupid comments like that

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2014-05-28 07:44:54   By: Anonymous
           
          Not everyone who served fought, vietnam vets really way in on that one, they don't recognize Vietnam Era as meaning much and many were and still are very upset that an "Era" vet was even allowed to join their group.
          Not all vets are Patriots either. Just because you are a vet does not give you the right to spend the rest of your life inflicting your 30 days in hell on the rest of the world through you being a drunk and belligerent *bleep* .
          I am a veteran, a non wounded combat Veteran. Sometimes I think the pendulum swung to far the other way.
          Not enough thanks 45 years ago and too much today to suit me. It becomes phony.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2014-05-27 11:35:58   By: Anonymous
     
    Very true. I have benefitted from the VA services for 10 years, nothing major, but I am proud to be in their care. The VA is a massive organization with problems like any of that size, including the corporate world. Have you spent as much time criticizing General Motors?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2014-05-23 07:49:36   By: Anonymous
 
Yea, it is universal, and if you we're paying attention, or could pay attention, we vets could inform you about how bad the services are, just as those that understand health care, tried to warn us about the mess that we would have if we we're all dragged into this system! It's universal, and it doesn't work for the most part! GET IT!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2014-05-23 11:21:42   By: Anonymous
     
    who are you to decide that the VA doesn't work? Let's hear from others who are alive today thanks to the VA.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-24 11:29:55   By: Anonymous
       
      I've had excellent service , prompt attention , quick response time and turn around on prescriptions. On top of that a good doctor at the Sonora clinic.
      I've also had good results when i've had to go to Livermore VA !! I hope they can get the help needed to the problem areas ASAP !

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        Re: fakes??????
        Posted on: 2014-05-25 05:09:48   By: Anonymous
         
        I go to the Mather V.A. Excellant care! And as far as I know, one must be in the top tier of classification to receive priority care (tier 1-6) Correct me if I am wrong! That tier grouping is for in -country war zone vets; pows, wounded, agent orange, etc. As a 24 month in- country semi- combat vet I am thankful for the help. At least at the V.A. you do not have to call emergency before you go in!As for fakes: take a walk thru a V.A. hospital and see how many smiling faces you see because they are getting away with ripping-off the government. M. Weiss

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          Re: fakes??????
          Posted on: 2014-05-25 08:32:50   By: Anonymous
           
          Sounds like we just need to improve and fix what is broken within the VA medical system. I think with all this attention and spotlight on it lately, people are finally taking notice and being serious about the huge need for an overhaul that is long overdue. It CANNOT continue to exist the way it is.

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            Re: fakes??????
            Posted on: 2014-05-25 15:55:24   By: Anonymous
             
            Obama care for all including congressmen

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-26 22:57:06   By: Anonymous
       
      Is the VA system what you want for everyone? I hope not

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2014-05-27 11:37:03   By: Anonymous
         
        They should be so lucky.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2014-05-28 06:45:11   By: Anonymous
       
      who are you to question him are you a vet ? didn't think so. he can have as many questions on the VA as he wants its his healthcare. you libtards are even dumber than I thought

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VA care
Posted on: 2014-05-30 19:13:33   By: Anonymous
 
In 1979 I crawled into the VA Hospital in Martinez, CA with no ligaments but 1 remaining in my left knee due to a fall while fishing in the Sierras. They stuck me in a bed with me still thinkng of take two pills and call back in the morning. The next day they opened my leg up and a resident went to work (he later worked as the cutter for SD Chargers). After two-three weeks they cast me and set me loose. Some weeks later they put me in a moveable cast ..... five or six months later that got pulled and they set me loose. Cost to me? 20 months in Viet Nam. Was I satisfied? Yep. It has been 35 years and while the joint has gotten "sloppy" requiring a brace at times it is a lot better than my options without the 1979 VA.

What we currently are seeing is employees attempting to steal from the employer .... a common problem in what American Capitalism has grown into ...PEOPLE EATING THEIR YOUNG.

The answer is proper supervision and oversight and prison sentences for scofflaws who are convicted. I am sure laws cover this behavior.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2014-05-31 10:48:36   By: Anonymous
 
I use the va health care system, and have had to jump through the hoops to get what I earned! I have never received a final decision on health related items that I incurred during my time in Vietnam Nam, ie: serious hearing issues, PTSD issues, an issue with my prostrate that my DR. Had been monitoring, but had never told that my PSA count was in a dangerous range! Driving to to Livermoore or Palo Alto is a tremendous hardship, espescially as you get older, and for me I have a full time job, and to get off to go to these places is hard to do! The office people in Livermoore are often rude, and when I read the motto of the VA "We put veterans first" , I have to chuckle, I haven't really seen it that way for the most part! The VA serves a purpose, but I feel there needs to be some exceptions in their delivery, one being, if you have to leave the area to drive to the Bay Area, you get a voucher to have it taken care of locally! Illegals, Gitmo terrorists, don' t even have to go through all of this monkey business to get served, why do veterans have too?

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lame poll
Posted on: 2014-06-04 08:36:29   By: Anonymous
 
Since most people have no good frame of reference... Maybe there should be a third option for answering this poll.

I DON'T KNOW.

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Veteran Hospital
Posted on: 2014-06-04 21:13:11   By: Anonymous
 
Hospitals organized for dealing with the problems that veterans face is the best way to deal with those issues. They need to be managed better.

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